Sunflower seed load

Apr 12, 2024 at 03:59 PM CST + 4 - 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Does anyone know how heavy sunflower seeds are? I’ve got a 43x102x79 hopper. Just curious if I can get 25 ton in it or not

Replied on Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 07:53 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. it depends on the variety of sunflowers that you are hauling. Black oils are heavy. Conoils are fairly heavy. Confections are light and Jumbo whites are extremely light. Check with the trader you are hauling for to get the test weight of the material. The heavier the test weight, the heavier the product. If the test weight is around 28-32 or better you should get a fairly good load. That would compare to a normal load of oats. Less than 28 lbs per bushel will mean the flowers are light. When you get down to a test weight of 18-19 Lbs per bu on jumbo whites, you will need a much bigger trailer than you are talking to get a good load on. You need to know the specifications of the product being hauled to determine what size trailer you need to successfully and profitably haul it.

Replied on Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 07:53 AM CST

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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

it depends on the variety of sunflowers that you are hauling. Black oils are heavy. Conoils are fairly heavy. Confections are light and Jumbo whites are extremely light. Check with the trader you are hauling for to get the test weight of the material. The heavier the test weight, the heavier the product. If the test weight is around 28-32 or better you should get a fairly good load. That would compare to a normal load of oats. Less than 28 lbs per bushel will mean the flowers are light. When you get down to a test weight of 18-19 Lbs per bu on jumbo whites, you will need a much bigger trailer than you are talking to get a good load on. You need to know the specifications of the product being hauled to determine what size trailer you need to successfully and profitably haul it.

Replied on Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 07:53 AM CST + 2
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. well....maybe...but probably not?!?!?!?!?! Let's dive into it and try to make this a learning moment for everyone. Test weight is a measure of how much a product weighs for a certain area. In this case, a bushel is about 1.25 cubic feet. A quick Google search of this brings up the USDA standards of test weight for sunflower seeds. It says they should weigh a minimum of 25 pounds of test weight. Most trailer manufacturers provide either cubic foot capacity, bushel capacity, or both. For simplicity, I normally go by Cubic foot. In this case: 25 Pounds per bushel / 1.25 cubic feet per bushel = 20 pounds per square foot. Taking your normal tare weight, for simplicity lets use 52000 pounds, you can divide that by your weight per cubic foot to get how many cubic feet on average you would need. In this case, 52000 Pounds / 20 pounds per square foot = 2600 square feet. If you ordered your trailer new the manufacturer should be able to provide a spec sheet to you of our cubic feet exactly. If not you can check on their website. Keep in mind options such as trap height, door size, and slope angle can change the exact capacity so it is better to get it specific for your trailer. So, using the size chart on Timptes website we can see your trailer with split tubs would have 2034 cubic feet at water level with the top on your rails, OR 2201 cubic feet heaped 9 inches over the bows. Using all data as averages this means you can get 2200 cubic feet times 20 pounds per cubic foot = 44000 lbs However, test weight is the average weight per bushel, and with commodities the test weight is affected by numerous factors during the growing season and you could get into a case where there were 28 pd test weight sunflowers. In this case, the pounds per cubic foot would be 22.4 pds per cubic foot. This would mean you could get an extra 800 pounds. To Summarize: 1. Take the test weight of a product from Google (Pounds per bushel) 2. Divide by 1.25 cubic feet per bushel to get pounds per cubic foot (Note: sometimes you can just google pounds per cubic foot) 3. Take that number times the cubic foot capacity of your trailer that you found from the manufacturer and that will give you the tare weight you can haul if everything is average. 4. Make sure that weight hauled works for you at the rate offered to see if it is worth your time, a lot of times the lighter products have a higher rate due to the specialty equipment needed to haul them. After you find your trailer capacity and now how much you can legally haul in the box, you should just be one google search away from being able to answer your question on any product. Enjoy the weekend.

Replied on Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 07:53 AM CST

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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

well....maybe...but probably not?!?!?!?!?!

Let's dive into it and try to make this a learning moment for everyone.

Test weight is a measure of how much a product weighs for a certain area. In this case, a bushel is about 1.25 cubic feet. A quick Google search of this brings up the USDA standards of test weight for sunflower seeds. It says they should weigh a minimum of 25 pounds of test weight. Most trailer manufacturers provide either cubic foot capacity, bushel capacity, or both. For simplicity, I normally go by Cubic foot. In this case:

25 Pounds per bushel / 1.25 cubic feet per bushel = 20 pounds per square foot.

Taking your normal tare weight, for simplicity lets use 52000 pounds, you can divide that by your weight per cubic foot to get how many cubic feet on average you would need. In this case, 52000 Pounds / 20 pounds per square foot = 2600 square feet.

If you ordered your trailer new the manufacturer should be able to provide a spec sheet to you of our cubic feet exactly. If not you can check on their website. Keep in mind options such as trap height, door size, and slope angle can change the exact capacity so it is better to get it specific for your trailer.

So, using the size chart on Timptes website we can see your trailer with split tubs would have 2034 cubic feet at water level with the top on your rails, OR 2201 cubic feet heaped 9 inches over the bows.

Using all data as averages this means you can get 2200 cubic feet times 20 pounds per cubic foot = 44000 lbs

However, test weight is the average weight per bushel, and with commodities the test weight is affected by numerous factors during the growing season and you could get into a case where there were 28 pd test weight sunflowers. In this case, the pounds per cubic foot would be 22.4 pds per cubic foot. This would mean you could get an extra 800 pounds.

To Summarize:

1. Take the test weight of a product from Google (Pounds per bushel)

2. Divide by 1.25 cubic feet per bushel to get pounds per cubic foot (Note: sometimes you can just google pounds per cubic foot)

3. Take that number times the cubic foot capacity of your trailer that you found from the manufacturer and that will give you the tare weight you can haul if everything is average.

4. Make sure that weight hauled works for you at the rate offered to see if it is worth your time, a lot of times the lighter products have a higher rate due to the specialty equipment needed to haul them.

After you find your trailer capacity and now how much you can legally haul in the box, you should just be one google search away from being able to answer your question on any product.

Enjoy the weekend.

Replied on Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 07:53 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I've got a 42x96x78 and I can get about 21 ton.

Replied on Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 07:53 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. you will be full but yes you will

Replied on Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 07:54 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. youll be good

Replied on Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 07:54 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Depends on what kind of sunflower seeds you are talking about. If they are the oils which are black seeds not a problem. If they are the striped ones which are used for eating, you will need a 96 or 102 tall trailer with that length of a trailer.

Replied on Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 07:54 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Very doubtful that you will get that much weight in the trailer

Replied on Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 07:54 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Are they oiled? If they are you should get a full load.

Replied on Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 07:54 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Sunflower bushel weight 26-32lbs. I believe you will still get a good jag pretty sure you will fall little short of 25 tons, I have a 53x96x102 just to get 35 tons on.

Replied on Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 07:54 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. DEPENDING ON THE TEST WIEGHT OF SUNFLOWERS 28-29# YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO 30# JUST ABOUT 31-32# YOU WILL BE ABLE TO I HAVE A 42 X 102 X 88 WITH 31# I CAN GET 51,000+ WITH 29# I CANNOT GET 50,000#

Replied on Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 07:26 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "well....maybe...but probably not?!?!?!?!?! Let's dive into it and try to make this a learning moment for everyone. Test weight is a measure of how much a product weighs for a certain area. In this case, a bushel is about 1.25 cubic feet. A quick Google search of this brings up the USDA standards of test weight for sunflower seeds. It says they should weigh a minimum of 25 pounds of test weight. Most trailer manufacturers provide either cubic foot capacity, bushel capacity, or both. For simplicity, I normally go by Cubic foot. In this case: 25 Pounds per bushel / 1.25 cubic feet per bushel = 20 pounds per square foot. Taking your normal tare weight, for simplicity lets use 52000 pounds, you can divide that by your weight per cubic foot to get how many cubic feet on average you would need. In this case, 52000 Pounds / 20 pounds per square foot = 2600 square feet. If you ordered your trailer new the manufacturer should be able to provide a spec sheet to you of our cubic feet exactly. If not you can check on their website. Keep in mind options such as trap height, door size, and slope angle can change the exact capacity so it is better to get it specific for your trailer. So, using the size chart on Timptes website we can see your trailer with split tubs would have 2034 cubic feet at water level with the top on your rails, OR 2201 cubic feet heaped 9 inches over the bows. Using all data as averages this means you can get 2200 cubic feet times 20 pounds per cubic foot = 44000 lbs However, test weight is the average weight per bushel, and with commodities the test weight is affected by numerous factors during the growing season and you could get into a case where there were 28 pd test weight sunflowers. In this case, the pounds per cubic foot would be 22.4 pds per cubic foot. This would mean you could get an extra 800 pounds. To Summarize: 1. Take the test weight of a product from Google (Pounds per bushel) 2. Divide by 1.25 cubic feet per bushel to get pounds per cubic foot (Note: sometimes you can just google pounds per cubic foot) 3. Take that number times the cubic foot capacity of your trailer that you found from the manufacturer and that will give you the tare weight you can haul if everything is average. 4. Make sure that weight hauled works for you at the rate offered to see if it is worth your time, a lot of times the lighter products have a higher rate due to the specialty equipment needed to haul them. After you find your trailer capacity and now how much you can legally haul in the box, you should just be one google search away from being able to answer your question on any product. Enjoy the weekend. " can i do this math going down the road?

Replied on Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 07:26 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "well....maybe...but probably not?!?!?!?!?! Let's dive into it and try to make this a learning moment for everyone. Test weight is a measure of how much a product weighs for a certain area. In this case, a bushel is about 1.25 cubic feet. A quick Google search of this brings up the USDA standards of test weight for sunflower seeds. It says they should weigh a minimum of 25 pounds of test weight. Most trailer manufacturers provide either cubic foot capacity, bushel capacity, or both. For simplicity, I normally go by Cubic foot. In this case: 25 Pounds per bushel / 1.25 cubic feet per bushel = 20 pounds per square foot. Taking your normal tare weight, for simplicity lets use 52000 pounds, you can divide that by your weight per cubic foot to get how many cubic feet on average you would need. In this case, 52000 Pounds / 20 pounds per square foot = 2600 square feet. If you ordered your trailer new the manufacturer should be able to provide a spec sheet to you of our cubic feet exactly. If not you can check on their website. Keep in mind options such as trap height, door size, and slope angle can change the exact capacity so it is better to get it specific for your trailer. So, using the size chart on Timptes website we can see your trailer with split tubs would have 2034 cubic feet at water level with the top on your rails, OR 2201 cubic feet heaped 9 inches over the bows. Using all data as averages this means you can get 2200 cubic feet times 20 pounds per cubic foot = 44000 lbs However, test weight is the average weight per bushel, and with commodities the test weight is affected by numerous factors during the growing season and you could get into a case where there were 28 pd test weight sunflowers. In this case, the pounds per cubic foot would be 22.4 pds per cubic foot. This would mean you could get an extra 800 pounds. To Summarize: 1. Take the test weight of a product from Google (Pounds per bushel) 2. Divide by 1.25 cubic feet per bushel to get pounds per cubic foot (Note: sometimes you can just google pounds per cubic foot) 3. Take that number times the cubic foot capacity of your trailer that you found from the manufacturer and that will give you the tare weight you can haul if everything is average. 4. Make sure that weight hauled works for you at the rate offered to see if it is worth your time, a lot of times the lighter products have a higher rate due to the specialty equipment needed to haul them. After you find your trailer capacity and now how much you can legally haul in the box, you should just be one google search away from being able to answer your question on any product. Enjoy the weekend. "

can i do this math going down the road?