Dispatch Services

Dec 17, 2020 at 10:55 AM CST + 21 - 3
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. The longer my truck is in the shop, the more active I seem to be on the forum tab, especially since my wife has decided she no longer needs my supervisory skills. To that end, I'd like to throw this question out to the CARRIERS to see what your opinion's are: What do you think of "dispatch services" and if you use them, do you think they are a better value than a traditional Broker? I'm asking because back in the "good ol days" this group did not exist. Additionally, I have a good friend who is a criminal investigator with FMCSA who told me they are working multiple investigations of fraud and all of them center around dispatch services. A few weeks ago while talking to OOIDA, they said the same thing. Before all you dispatch services pounce on me like "white on rice", let me state, I am in no way saying all dispatch services are bad. While I'm not a dispatch service user, maybe I'm missing something that could provide a value I am currently missing. What do you think?

Replied on Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 03:22 PM CST + 2
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Dispatch service, broker, freight forwarder...all the same thing in my opinion. Think I'll start calling my trucking company a freight relocation service.

Replied on Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 06:48 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. In my opinion, a dispatch service is just a scam to circumvent obtaining the bond and license of being a broker.

Replied on Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 07:33 AM CST + 3
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. From what I've seen trying to use a dispatch service to find me a load the dispatch service uses the same load board I am to get a load and tries to talk the rate up. I can do that myself without paying for a dispatch service

Replied on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 12:50 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. My two cents... if a carrier or an owner operator makes the decision to use a dispatcher service or actually hire an employee to dispatch, then it is acceptable. No harm, no foul. Acceptable fees for a requested service would be like $50 per successful load or 3-5%. We pay a family member to make the calls and negotiate rates due to me being on the road for Christmas the season. When a “Dispatch Sevice” pops up and questionably obtains loads from a broker or shipper, then posts those loads to a load board and eventually a carrier or an owner operator, then the system is effectively cheated. Not to mention they want to take an outrageous percentage. To add to the original question, why would a carrier (with a broker authority) obtain a number of loads for their trucks and contractors then continue to sell those loads to another broker, or carrier with authority, and so on only for them to take a cut and repost loads. Shouldn’t this practice be more offensive to the small O/O or carrier than a dispatcher? Each level seems to take 50% of the previous, leaving only the mythical $2/ mile that brokers all seem to think we can haul for. The original carrier/broker with the direct shipper contract could be very popular with us small professional carriers if they would eliminate the mass sale of their surplus loads to other entity to be chopped in half....

Replied on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 12:50 PM CST

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My two cents...

if a carrier or an owner operator makes the decision to use a dispatcher service or actually hire an employee to dispatch, then it is acceptable. No harm, no foul. Acceptable fees for a requested service would be like $50 per successful load or 3-5%. We pay a family member to make the calls and negotiate rates due to me being on the road for Christmas the season.

When a “Dispatch Sevice” pops up and questionably obtains loads from a broker or shipper, then posts those loads to a load board and eventually a carrier or an owner operator, then the system is effectively cheated. Not to mention they want to take an outrageous percentage.

To add to the original question, why would a carrier (with a broker authority) obtain a number of loads for their trucks and contractors then continue to sell those loads to another broker, or carrier with authority, and so on only for them to take a cut and repost loads.

Shouldn’t this practice be more offensive to the small O/O or carrier than a dispatcher? Each level seems to take 50% of the previous, leaving only the mythical $2/ mile that brokers all seem to think we can haul for.

The original carrier/broker with the direct shipper contract could be very popular with us small professional carriers if they would eliminate the mass sale of their surplus loads to other entity to be chopped in half....

Replied on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 12:51 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I guess what I find interesting is how any time there is talk of bringing back regulation, the Brokers make it widely known how they Oppose any effort to do so, yet those same people are all in favor of shutting down these dispatch services? Regulation for everyone else, but not themselves? If I choose to EMPLOY a dispatcher in my operation to coordinate loads on my behalf, what’s wrong with that? If a trucker can be 1099, then why not a business agent, acting on my behalf? As I understand it one benefit to this approach is, many dispatch services don’t force you to sign away your rights, like some brokers do. If you allow the brokers to take this option away from you, the brokers will own you. The Trojan horse is right in front of you.

Replied on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 12:51 PM CST

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I guess what I find interesting is how any time there is talk of bringing back regulation, the Brokers make it widely known how they Oppose any effort to do so, yet those same people are all in favor of shutting down these dispatch services? Regulation for everyone else, but not themselves? If I choose to EMPLOY a dispatcher in my operation to coordinate loads on my behalf, what’s wrong with that? If a trucker can be 1099, then why not a business agent, acting on my behalf? As I understand it one benefit to this approach is, many dispatch services don’t force you to sign away your rights, like some brokers do. If you allow the brokers to take this option away from you, the brokers will own you. The Trojan horse is right in front of you.

Replied on Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 04:12 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. The only legal way I can see someone operating a dispatch service without a MC# and required bond, would be if they were operating under the carriers MC#, as a authorized agent of the carrier, in other words they use your MC # to book the load for you, where as a Broker uses their own MC# to book the load, then they turn around and sell you the load. In one case you are someone’s boss, in the other case someone else is your boss.

Replied on Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 04:12 PM CST

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The only legal way I can see someone operating a dispatch service without a MC# and required bond, would be if they were operating under the carriers MC#, as a authorized agent of the carrier, in other words they use your MC # to book the load for you, where as a Broker uses their own MC# to book the load, then they turn around and sell you the load. In one case you are someone’s boss, in the other case someone else is your boss.

Replied on Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 12:37 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "From what I've seen trying to use a dispatch service to find me a load the dispatch service uses the same load board I am to get a load and tries to talk the rate up. I can do that myself without paying for a dispatch service" That's where I am on this issue. Whay pay an additional fee for a service I can easily do myself. I'd rather keep that fee in my pocket. There is not that much money involved to begin with. Also, if a dispatch service is chasing direct freight as the ones who have called me say they are, and putting it on their carriers, wouldn't it make them a broker? It seems like a convenient way around DOT registration and the cost of the bond to me, but if it works for some, good for them. It brings me to this question. If a person gets their authority, hires a compliance service, dispatch service, factoring company, and all the other services to make their life easier as the sales pitches say, wouldn't it be easier to just lease on somewhere? Or, how about this: train someone in your household to be the dispatch service and pay them! You don't have to do the work, write off the cost, and the money stays in the family! Now thats a win win in my book! Gotta go find the wife. She's going into business!

Replied on Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 12:37 PM CST

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Quote: "From what I've seen trying to use a dispatch service to find me a load the dispatch service uses the same load board I am to get a load and tries to talk the rate up. I can do that myself without paying for a dispatch service"

That's where I am on this issue. Whay pay an additional fee for a service I can easily do myself. I'd rather keep that fee in my pocket. There is not that much money involved to begin with. Also, if a dispatch service is chasing direct freight as the ones who have called me say they are, and putting it on their carriers, wouldn't it make them a broker? It seems like a convenient way around DOT registration and the cost of the bond to me, but if it works for some, good for them.

It brings me to this question. If a person gets their authority, hires a compliance service, dispatch service, factoring company, and all the other services to make their life easier as the sales pitches say, wouldn't it be easier to just lease on somewhere? Or, how about this: train someone in your household to be the dispatch service and pay them! You don't have to do the work, write off the cost, and the money stays in the family! Now thats a win win in my book! Gotta go find the wife. She's going into business!

Replied on Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 07:00 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Since I know nothing about paperwork, load finding .. always been company driver . Do dispatch services deal with all the paperwork etc.. ? I would need someone to do that for me since will just be starting out as o/o. Dont want to fail right out of gate.

Replied on Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 07:19 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. All that a dispatcher should perform for a carrier or O/O’s request is make calls and get details such as “commodity, rate, and pick up and delivery” details. IF those match what the OO or carriers need, then the rate con and paperwork should be handled by the OO or carrier. Dispatcher should be in no way entitled to the carriers personal or extended business info. sounds like a perfect nephew or son in law job description, or at most a 3% fee for a stranger. dispatchers don’t have direct shippers, unless they claim brokers as direct shippers. And please, Brokers....don’t allow for double and triple brokering. If you can’t cover what you have committed too, then call O/Os or carriers in your network, not other brokers that take another 50+% from us. Smart carriers won’t haul it anyway for that little.

Replied on Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 07:19 AM CST

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All that a dispatcher should perform for a carrier or O/O’s request is make calls and get details such as “commodity, rate, and pick up and delivery” details.

IF those match what the OO or carriers need, then the rate con and paperwork should be handled by the OO or carrier.

Dispatcher should be in no way entitled to the carriers personal or extended business info.

sounds like a perfect nephew or son in law job description, or at most a 3% fee for a stranger.

dispatchers don’t have direct shippers, unless they claim brokers as direct shippers.

And please, Brokers....don’t allow for double and triple brokering. If you can’t cover what you have committed too, then call O/Os or carriers in your network, not other brokers that take another 50+% from us. Smart carriers won’t haul it anyway for that little.

Replied on Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 09:51 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Since I know nothing about paperwork, load finding .. always been company driver . Do dispatch services deal with all the paperwork etc.. ? I would need someone to do that for me since will just be starting out as o/o. Dont want to fail right out of gate. " I'n my opinion, if you don't know how to do the paperwork, you are setting yourself up for failure already. Paying someone a fee will only speed the process. Try being a leased operator for a couple of years while you lean more. You can't pay people to make you a successful owner operator, it flat doesn't work. It's not how much money you earn, it's how much you keep that is important. While there are some very good YouTube trucking channels out there, many of them are pushing people into becoming owner operators way to fast. The money and long term staying power in the industry is not as easy as they make it sound. Be careful, move slow, take your time. Learn as much as you can on someone else's dime, then make small calculated steps toward your goal. Good Luck!

Replied on Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 09:51 AM CST

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Quote: "Since I know nothing about paperwork, load finding .. always been company driver . Do dispatch services deal with all the paperwork etc.. ? I would need someone to do that for me since will just be starting out as o/o. Dont want to fail right out of gate. "

I'n my opinion, if you don't know how to do the paperwork, you are setting yourself up for failure already. Paying someone a fee will only speed the process. Try being a leased operator for a couple of years while you lean more. You can't pay people to make you a successful owner operator, it flat doesn't work. It's not how much money you earn, it's how much you keep that is important.

While there are some very good YouTube trucking channels out there, many of them are pushing people into becoming owner operators way to fast. The money and long term staying power in the industry is not as easy as they make it sound.

Be careful, move slow, take your time. Learn as much as you can on someone else's dime, then make small calculated steps toward your goal.

Good Luck!

Replied on Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 05:28 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. It seems to me that the broker, the dispatcher, and the trucker, all want the same thing, to make money but none of them know how to do it, the broker blames the dispatch service, and the carriers blame the broker. First off a truck is not a profit center, it is a expense that’s why very few shippers own them, and the goal of every business is to minimize expenses. If you go strictly by the data, trucking as a industry only makes pennies on the dollar, yet look at all the guys who jump into it without ever researching that? And every time a bunch of them go broke, there is a surplus of equipment available and the cost for the next generation to get into business drops, and the shippers get them to accept even less money, the cycle has repeated itself many times over since 1980. Most truckers think they are successful if they just make as much as a company driver, they don’t care if the business makes a profit, so most keep adding trucks only to find out that they can’t complete against the guy who only has one truck, they become trapped, then want to blame the broker, who wants to blame the dispatch service. I know of a couple of repair shops that didn’t understand why the customers couldn’t pay their bill, so they wind up taking the truck in court for the money owed, then turn around and start a trucking company and suddenly it becomes oh so clear, why that guy couldn’t pay his repair bill.

Replied on Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 05:28 PM CST

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It seems to me that the broker, the dispatcher, and the trucker, all want the same thing, to make money but none of them know how to do it, the broker blames the dispatch service, and the carriers blame the broker. First off a truck is not a profit center, it is a expense that’s why very few shippers own them, and the goal of every business is to minimize expenses. If you go strictly by the data, trucking as a industry only makes pennies on the dollar, yet look at all the guys who jump into it without ever researching that? And every time a bunch of them go broke, there is a surplus of equipment available and the cost for the next generation to get into business drops, and the shippers get them to accept even less money, the cycle has repeated itself many times over since 1980. Most truckers think they are successful if they just make as much as a company driver, they don’t care if the business makes a profit, so most keep adding trucks only to find out that they can’t complete against the guy who only has one truck, they become trapped, then want to blame the broker, who wants to blame the dispatch service. I know of a couple of repair shops that didn’t understand why the customers couldn’t pay their bill, so they wind up taking the truck in court for the money owed, then turn around and start a trucking company and suddenly it becomes oh so clear, why that guy couldn’t pay his repair bill.

Replied on Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 05:28 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "I'n my opinion, if you don't know how to do the paperwork, you are setting yourself up for failure already. Paying someone a fee will only speed the process. Try being a leased operator for a couple of years while you lean more. You can't pay people to make you a successful owner operator, it flat doesn't work. It's not how much money you earn, it's how much you keep that is important. While there are some very good YouTube trucking channels out there, many of them are pushing people into becoming owner operators way to fast. The money and long term staying power in the industry is not as easy as they make it sound. Be careful, move slow, take your time. Learn as much as you can on someone else's dime, then make small calculated steps toward your goal. Good Luck!" I been driving for 12 years. Just am really bad with paperwork. Do not have the patients to fill it out nor do I want to. I would only lease on if it was a emergency. Don't want to be an employee. I generally work 1099 and only for people that I can work 5 days only. I will not do that 34 hour reset crap. Got things I have to do besides live in that truck. I charge 1k a week to drive , home everyday or out 5. I would be much more successful if I pay someone to make sure paperwork is done right. Not just the load stuff but compliance also. I got no idea what paperwork goes along with getting a load. Might be easy. But I read that the difference in broker and dispatcher is basically dispatch service can take care of all paperwork etc so I can just drive . Seems like cost is about the same . I don't want to get my own loads. Too ,much thinking quick for me .

Replied on Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 05:28 PM CST

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Quote: "I'n my opinion, if you don't know how to do the paperwork, you are setting yourself up for failure already. Paying someone a fee will only speed the process. Try being a leased operator for a couple of years while you lean more. You can't pay people to make you a successful owner operator, it flat doesn't work. It's not how much money you earn, it's how much you keep that is important. While there are some very good YouTube trucking channels out there, many of them are pushing people into becoming owner operators way to fast. The money and long term staying power in the industry is not as easy as they make it sound. Be careful, move slow, take your time. Learn as much as you can on someone else's dime, then make small calculated steps toward your goal. Good Luck!"

I been driving for 12 years. Just am really bad with paperwork. Do not have the patients to fill it out nor do I want to. I would only lease on if it was a emergency. Don't want to be an employee. I generally work 1099 and only for people that I can work 5 days only. I will not do that 34 hour reset crap. Got things I have to do besides live in that truck. I charge 1k a week to drive , home everyday or out 5.

I would be much more successful if I pay someone to make sure paperwork is done right. Not just the load stuff but compliance also.

I got no idea what paperwork goes along with getting a load. Might be easy.

But I read that the difference in broker and dispatcher is basically dispatch service can take care of all paperwork etc so I can just drive . Seems like cost is about the same .

I don't want to get my own loads. Too ,much thinking quick for me .

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 07:08 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. If you only want to do is drive why buy your own trk? I assume you can't do your own repairs? Whats the point? Art Pfluger

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 07:39 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "If you only want to do is drive why buy your own trk? I assume you can't do your own repairs? Whats the point? Art Pfluger" Another very good point....

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 07:39 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "I been driving for 12 years. Just am really bad with paperwork. Do not have the patients to fill it out nor do I want to. I would only lease on if it was a emergency. Don't want to be an employee. I generally work 1099 and only for people that I can work 5 days only. I will not do that 34 hour reset crap. Got things I have to do besides live in that truck. I charge 1k a week to drive , home everyday or out 5. I would be much more successful if I pay someone to make sure paperwork is done right. Not just the load stuff but compliance also. I got no idea what paperwork goes along with getting a load. Might be easy. But I read that the difference in broker and dispatcher is basically dispatch service can take care of all paperwork etc so I can just drive . Seems like cost is about the same . I don't want to get my own loads. Too ,much thinking quick for me . " The flaw in your plan is the dispatcher is most likely going to get your loads from a broker. You will pay the brokerage, and the dispatcher. Your compliance will come from a third party. Most dispatchers only handle loading and related paperwork. Then comes factoring if you choose to go that way. Additionally, if you don't know how to do any of it, how will you know if they are doing you a good job? NO ONE will look out for your interests better than you. Here's a quick breakdown of fees: Dispatcher / Broker all rolled into the dispatcher fee Compliance Factoring (if you don't have the capital to wait to be paid) Book Keeping CPA to file your tax return We haven't got to your equipment, fuel, insurance, tags, maintenance, and oh yea, your salary. I gues my next question is, if you've been driving for the last 12 years and it's been working, why change it? I'm not trying to make you mad or talk you out of your plan, it's your business go ahead and give it a shot. All I can say without a doubt, is it's a flawed plan right out of the gate. I hope it works out for you and you prove me wrong. Dave Winters reply above is also well said. If you are looking for advice from people with experience in this industry, here you have it. What you decide to do with it is up to you. Good Luck!

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 07:39 AM CST

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Quote: "I been driving for 12 years. Just am really bad with paperwork. Do not have the patients to fill it out nor do I want to. I would only lease on if it was a emergency. Don't want to be an employee. I generally work 1099 and only for people that I can work 5 days only. I will not do that 34 hour reset crap. Got things I have to do besides live in that truck. I charge 1k a week to drive , home everyday or out 5. I would be much more successful if I pay someone to make sure paperwork is done right. Not just the load stuff but compliance also. I got no idea what paperwork goes along with getting a load. Might be easy. But I read that the difference in broker and dispatcher is basically dispatch service can take care of all paperwork etc so I can just drive . Seems like cost is about the same . I don't want to get my own loads. Too ,much thinking quick for me . "

The flaw in your plan is the dispatcher is most likely going to get your loads from a broker. You will pay the brokerage, and the dispatcher. Your compliance will come from a third party. Most dispatchers only handle loading and related paperwork. Then comes factoring if you choose to go that way. Additionally, if you don't know how to do any of it, how will you know if they are doing you a good job? NO ONE will look out for your interests better than you.

Here's a quick breakdown of fees:

Dispatcher / Broker all rolled into the dispatcher fee

Compliance

Factoring (if you don't have the capital to wait to be paid)

Book Keeping

CPA to file your tax return

We haven't got to your equipment, fuel, insurance, tags, maintenance, and oh yea, your salary.

I gues my next question is, if you've been driving for the last 12 years and it's been working, why change it?

I'm not trying to make you mad or talk you out of your plan, it's your business go ahead and give it a shot. All I can say without a doubt, is it's a flawed plan right out of the gate. I hope it works out for you and you prove me wrong.

Dave Winters reply above is also well said. If you are looking for advice from people with experience in this industry, here you have it. What you decide to do with it is up to you.

Good Luck!

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 09:56 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "I been driving for 12 years. Just am really bad with paperwork. Do not have the patients to fill it out nor do I want to. I would only lease on if it was a emergency. Don't want to be an employee. I generally work 1099 and only for people that I can work 5 days only. I will not do that 34 hour reset crap. Got things I have to do besides live in that truck. I charge 1k a week to drive , home everyday or out 5. I would be much more successful if I pay someone to make sure paperwork is done right. Not just the load stuff but compliance also. I got no idea what paperwork goes along with getting a load. Might be easy. But I read that the difference in broker and dispatcher is basically dispatch service can take care of all paperwork etc so I can just drive . Seems like cost is about the same . I don't want to get my own loads. Too ,much thinking quick for me . " If you think your going to make it as an O/O telling everyone what you WON'T do, and working M-F, your delusional. After a year, or more realistic, a few years of building relationships, and learning lanes, you might get there. This "I will not do that 34 hr. reset crap, got things to do besides live in that truck" attitude you have is fine for a company driver. You need the complete opposite attitude to become a succesful O/O. BTW, I bet Art wouldn't hire you as a driver if you walked into his office telling him how much you charge, and what you WON'T do.

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 09:56 AM CST

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If you think your going to make it as an O/O telling everyone what you WON'T do, and working M-F, your delusional. After a year, or more realistic, a few years of building relationships, and learning lanes, you might get there. This "I will not do that 34 hr. reset crap, got things to do besides live in that truck" attitude you have is fine for a company driver. You need the complete opposite attitude to become a succesful O/O. BTW, I bet Art wouldn't hire you as a driver if you walked into his office telling him how much you charge, and what you WON'T do.

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 12:52 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Question : 1. you pay a broker 15% ?or whatever to get you a load . 2. You pay a dispatcher 5% - 9% to get load and possibly handle all other stuff so you can just drive. 3. You get load from load board . Question is , doesn't the load board load get posted by s broker ? And if so , doesn't that broker have his % factored into the pay for the load ? If so then what would be the difference in you getting from load board or paying dispatcher / broker for loads ? Just trying to figure out how all this works

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 12:52 PM CST

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Question : 1. you pay a broker 15% ?or whatever to get you a load .

2. You pay a dispatcher 5% - 9% to get load and possibly handle all other stuff so you can just drive.

3. You get load from load board .

Question is , doesn't the load board load get posted by s broker ?

And if so , doesn't that broker have his % factored into the pay for the load ?

If so then what would be the difference in you getting from load board or paying dispatcher / broker for loads ?

Just trying to figure out how all this works

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 01:53 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "If you think your going to make it as an O/O telling everyone what you WON'T do, and working M-F, your delusional. After a year, or more realistic, a few years of building relationships, and learning lanes, you might get there. This "I will not do that 34 hr. reset crap, got things to do besides live in that truck" attitude you have is fine for a company driver. You need the complete opposite attitude to become a succesful O/O. BTW, I bet Art wouldn't hire you as a driver if you walked into his office telling him how much you charge, and what you WON'T do." To clarify that , not that I always leave 8 am Monday and come home 5 pm Friday . Leave sometimes Sunday night and maybe come home Friday late or after midnight. Around these parts grain elevators etc are open from about 8 - 3 for small towns . Big guys to load vary. Cement plants just about never work past Friday afternoon to unload at. Some plants for loading are 24/7 in summer . Not open long in winter ,months . So my m-f is not a fantasy around ks and surrounding states . I been running around here for 12 years doing these things. If company can buy truck, pay me to drive it m-f then no reason why I can not do the same.

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 01:53 PM CST

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Quote: "If you think your going to make it as an O/O telling everyone what you WON'T do, and working M-F, your delusional. After a year, or more realistic, a few years of building relationships, and learning lanes, you might get there. This "I will not do that 34 hr. reset crap, got things to do besides live in that truck" attitude you have is fine for a company driver. You need the complete opposite attitude to become a succesful O/O. BTW, I bet Art wouldn't hire you as a driver if you walked into his office telling him how much you charge, and what you WON'T do."

To clarify that , not that I always leave 8 am Monday and come home 5 pm Friday .

Leave sometimes Sunday night and maybe come home Friday late or after midnight.

Around these parts grain elevators etc are open from about 8 - 3 for small towns . Big guys to load vary.

Cement plants just about never work past Friday afternoon to unload at. Some plants for loading are 24/7 in summer . Not open long in winter ,months .

So my m-f is not a fantasy around ks and surrounding states . I been running around here for 12 years doing these things.

If company can buy truck, pay me to drive it m-f then no reason why I can not do the same.

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 01:54 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "If you think your going to make it as an O/O telling everyone what you WON'T do, and working M-F, your delusional. After a year, or more realistic, a few years of building relationships, and learning lanes, you might get there. This "I will not do that 34 hr. reset crap, got things to do besides live in that truck" attitude you have is fine for a company driver. You need the complete opposite attitude to become a succesful O/O. BTW, I bet Art wouldn't hire you as a driver if you walked into his office telling him how much you charge, and what you WON'T do." I have no problems getting jobs. I just have my preferences and they generally do not confirm with the 70 hour , 6 day week , home 34 hours stuff . I make 800 yo 1200 a week m-f for years . As a o/o I might find it necessary to stay out s day longer here and there. But I do know plenty of o/o that do same work I normally do and they work m - f. My version of regional is not a short drive otr job. If I wanted to sit in my truck for 34 hours in s truck stop or only be home 34 hours on weekend, then I would have no need to have s home. But I do and I need to take care of it I ran cement for last 3.5 years. Home every Friday like clockwork. Besides who is ever open on s weekend ? Rare that I ever had any with rock or grain or cement .

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 01:54 PM CST

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I have no problems getting jobs. I just have my preferences and they generally do not confirm with the 70 hour , 6 day week , home 34 hours stuff . I make 800 yo 1200 a week m-f for years .

As a o/o I might find it necessary to stay out s day longer here and there. But I do know plenty of o/o that do same work I normally do and they work m - f.

My version of regional is not a short drive otr job. If I wanted to sit in my truck for 34 hours in s truck stop or only be home 34 hours on weekend, then I would have no need to have s home. But I do and I need to take care of it

I ran cement for last 3.5 years. Home every Friday like clockwork. Besides who is ever open on s weekend ? Rare that I ever had any with rock or grain or cement .

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 04:28 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Question : 1. you pay a broker 15% ?or whatever to get you a load . 2. You pay a dispatcher 5% - 9% to get load and possibly handle all other stuff so you can just drive. 3. You get load from load board . Question is , doesn't the load board load get posted by s broker ? And if so , doesn't that broker have his % factored into the pay for the load ? If so then what would be the difference in you getting from load board or paying dispatcher / broker for loads ? Just trying to figure out how all this works " You don’t pay brokers to get you loads. Here’s how it works: 1. Broker has loads. 2. Broker posts loads to load boards. 3. You subscribe to load boards. 4. You pick a load off the board, call the broker, negotiate the rate, and go run the load. Submit your paperwork to the broker and get paid. Hypothetical example: I have load, you call me. I say you can have the load for $1000.. You take it. I’ve made my commission for the load and you have no idea what I made. Option2: you pay a dispatcher to call the broker for you. They will take an additional 9% off of your $1000. So, the broker made his money and you paid another $90 for someone to do it for you. Based on most rates today, you really can’t afford to give up $90 per load.

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 04:28 PM CST

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Quote: "Question : 1. you pay a broker 15% ?or whatever to get you a load . 2. You pay a dispatcher 5% - 9% to get load and possibly handle all other stuff so you can just drive. 3. You get load from load board . Question is , doesn't the load board load get posted by s broker ? And if so , doesn't that broker have his % factored into the pay for the load ? If so then what would be the difference in you getting from load board or paying dispatcher / broker for loads ? Just trying to figure out how all this works "

You don’t pay brokers to get you loads. Here’s how it works: 1. Broker has loads. 2. Broker posts loads to load boards. 3. You subscribe to load boards. 4. You pick a load off the board, call the broker, negotiate the rate, and go run the load. Submit your paperwork to the broker and get paid. Hypothetical example: I have load, you call me. I say you can have the load for $1000.. You take it. I’ve made my commission for the load and you have no idea what I made. Option2: you pay a dispatcher to call the broker for you. They will take an additional 9% off of your $1000. So, the broker made his money and you paid another $90 for someone to do it for you. Based on most rates today, you really can’t afford to give up $90 per load.

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 05:06 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "If you only want to do is drive why buy your own trk? I assume you can't do your own repairs? Whats the point? Art Pfluger" Why not buy s truck if you only want to drive. By this logic I must assume that every company finds their own loads on boards and hires no one to do it for them. The ceo who owns 100 trucks sits all day on a load board getting 100 drivers loads ? No he hires a broker or dispatchers. I know o/o that prefer the load board. But they are good at it. Repairs. Nope , not a mechanic . Nor are 100's of thousands of other drivers. That is why mechanic shops stay in business. I fail to see the problem with owning a truck and using a didpatch service. Especially if the o/o is new st the business of it. Best to pay out a little money and know you are going to get good loads.

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 05:06 PM CST

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Quote: "If you only want to do is drive why buy your own trk? I assume you can't do your own repairs? Whats the point? Art Pfluger"

Why not buy s truck if you only want to drive.

By this logic I must assume that every company finds their own loads on boards and hires no one to do it for them. The ceo who owns 100 trucks sits all day on a load board getting 100 drivers loads ?

No he hires a broker or dispatchers.

I know o/o that prefer the load board. But they are good at it.

Repairs. Nope , not a mechanic . Nor are 100's of thousands of other drivers. That is why mechanic shops stay in business.

I fail to see the problem with owning a truck and using a didpatch service. Especially if the o/o is new st the business of it. Best to pay out a little money and know you are going to get good loads.

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 05:51 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "The flaw in your plan is the dispatcher is most likely going to get your loads from a broker. You will pay the brokerage, and the dispatcher. Your compliance will come from a third party. Most dispatchers only handle loading and related paperwork. Then comes factoring if you choose to go that way. Additionally, if you don't know how to do any of it, how will you know if they are doing you a good job? NO ONE will look out for your interests better than you. Here's a quick breakdown of fees: Dispatcher / Broker all rolled into the dispatcher fee Compliance Factoring (if you don't have the capital to wait to be paid) Book Keeping CPA to file your tax return We haven't got to your equipment, fuel, insurance, tags, maintenance, and oh yea, your salary. I gues my next question is, if you've been driving for the last 12 years and it's been working, why change it? I'm not trying to make you mad or talk you out of your plan, it's your business go ahead and give it a shot. All I can say without a doubt, is it's a flawed plan right out of the gate. I hope it works out for you and you prove me wrong. Dave Winters reply above is also well said. If you are looking for advice from people with experience in this industry, here you have it. What you decide to do with it is up to you. Good Luck!" So , better to just go with s broker ? Seeing as I do not have any experience using a load board . I would probably make bad mistakes . At least until I learn how to find good loads myself . I would use an accountant. Don't think I need factoring. Well depending on how much funding I get from lender. I do not like being an employee. Hard to find places that run 1099 and just let me drive and don't bother me. Just text me a load and I make sure it gets delivered . Don't need a babysitter calling me up . Plus with 1099 I paid almost no taxes. But that is going away with new president I guess. So he said. I'm soaking in advice here, asking questions. Giving my opinion so I can get feedback on it.

Replied on Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 05:51 PM CST

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Quote: "The flaw in your plan is the dispatcher is most likely going to get your loads from a broker. You will pay the brokerage, and the dispatcher. Your compliance will come from a third party. Most dispatchers only handle loading and related paperwork. Then comes factoring if you choose to go that way. Additionally, if you don't know how to do any of it, how will you know if they are doing you a good job? NO ONE will look out for your interests better than you. Here's a quick breakdown of fees: Dispatcher / Broker all rolled into the dispatcher fee Compliance Factoring (if you don't have the capital to wait to be paid) Book Keeping CPA to file your tax return We haven't got to your equipment, fuel, insurance, tags, maintenance, and oh yea, your salary. I gues my next question is, if you've been driving for the last 12 years and it's been working, why change it? I'm not trying to make you mad or talk you out of your plan, it's your business go ahead and give it a shot. All I can say without a doubt, is it's a flawed plan right out of the gate. I hope it works out for you and you prove me wrong. Dave Winters reply above is also well said. If you are looking for advice from people with experience in this industry, here you have it. What you decide to do with it is up to you. Good Luck!"

So , better to just go with s broker ? Seeing as I do not have any experience using a load board . I would probably make bad mistakes . At least until I learn how to find good loads myself .

I would use an accountant.

Don't think I need factoring. Well depending on how much funding I get from lender.

I do not like being an employee. Hard to find places that run 1099 and just let me drive and don't bother me. Just text me a load and I make sure it gets delivered . Don't need a babysitter calling me up .

Plus with 1099 I paid almost no taxes. But that is going away with new president I guess. So he said.

I'm soaking in advice here, asking questions. Giving my opinion so I can get feedback on it.

Replied on Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 07:28 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "You don’t pay brokers to get you loads. Here’s how it works: 1. Broker has loads. 2. Broker posts loads to load boards. 3. You subscribe to load boards. 4. You pick a load off the board, call the broker, negotiate the rate, and go run the load. Submit your paperwork to the broker and get paid. Hypothetical example: I have load, you call me. I say you can have the load for $1000.. You take it. I’ve made my commission for the load and you have no idea what I made. Option2: you pay a dispatcher to call the broker for you. They will take an additional 9% off of your $1000. So, the broker made his money and you paid another $90 for someone to do it for you. Based on most rates today, you really can’t afford to give up $90 per load." Okay. Thanks. But I could find s broker that would get me loads instead of me looking on board ? If not then I will just have to figure out the load board stuff. I am already familiar with the way loads go around kansas, ne , ok mo. So that helps. I know places not to go to. Like texas since never s load back . Or a couple feed places that always decline load cuz they are full or broke down.

Replied on Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 07:28 AM CST

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Quote: "You don’t pay brokers to get you loads. Here’s how it works: 1. Broker has loads. 2. Broker posts loads to load boards. 3. You subscribe to load boards. 4. You pick a load off the board, call the broker, negotiate the rate, and go run the load. Submit your paperwork to the broker and get paid. Hypothetical example: I have load, you call me. I say you can have the load for $1000.. You take it. I’ve made my commission for the load and you have no idea what I made. Option2: you pay a dispatcher to call the broker for you. They will take an additional 9% off of your $1000. So, the broker made his money and you paid another $90 for someone to do it for you. Based on most rates today, you really can’t afford to give up $90 per load."

Okay. Thanks.

But I could find s broker that would get me loads instead of me looking on board ?

If not then I will just have to figure out the load board stuff. I am already familiar with the way loads go around kansas, ne , ok mo. So that helps. I know places not to go to. Like texas since never s load back . Or a couple feed places that always decline load cuz they are full or broke down.

Replied on Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 09:11 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Why not buy s truck if you only want to drive. By this logic I must assume that every company finds their own loads on boards and hires no one to do it for them. The ceo who owns 100 trucks sits all day on a load board getting 100 drivers loads ? No he hires a broker or dispatchers. I know o/o that prefer the load board. But they are good at it. Repairs. Nope , not a mechanic . Nor are 100's of thousands of other drivers. That is why mechanic shops stay in business. I fail to see the problem with owning a truck and using a didpatch service. Especially if the o/o is new st the business of it. Best to pay out a little money and know you are going to get good loads." I Chi Wa Wa ... It doesn't seem like you want to understand or, you are merely a troll. 100 truck fleets hire sales people to get loads direct, and dispatchers to dispatch the trucks. You cannot compare yourself to a 100 truck fleet, but you know what go for it. Don't listen to us.. Gve it a shot.

Replied on Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 09:11 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "Why not buy s truck if you only want to drive. By this logic I must assume that every company finds their own loads on boards and hires no one to do it for them. The ceo who owns 100 trucks sits all day on a load board getting 100 drivers loads ? No he hires a broker or dispatchers. I know o/o that prefer the load board. But they are good at it. Repairs. Nope , not a mechanic . Nor are 100's of thousands of other drivers. That is why mechanic shops stay in business. I fail to see the problem with owning a truck and using a didpatch service. Especially if the o/o is new st the business of it. Best to pay out a little money and know you are going to get good loads."

I Chi Wa Wa ... It doesn't seem like you want to understand or, you are merely a troll. 100 truck fleets hire sales people to get loads direct, and dispatchers to dispatch the trucks. You cannot compare yourself to a 100 truck fleet, but you know what go for it. Don't listen to us.. Gve it a shot.

Replied on Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 09:11 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "So , better to just go with s broker ? Seeing as I do not have any experience using a load board . I would probably make bad mistakes . At least until I learn how to find good loads myself . I would use an accountant. Don't think I need factoring. Well depending on how much funding I get from lender. I do not like being an employee. Hard to find places that run 1099 and just let me drive and don't bother me. Just text me a load and I make sure it gets delivered . Don't need a babysitter calling me up . Plus with 1099 I paid almost no taxes. But that is going away with new president I guess. So he said. I'm soaking in advice here, asking questions. Giving my opinion so I can get feedback on it. " My phone number is on my profile. Give me a call and I'll try to answer any of your questions.

Replied on Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 09:11 AM CST

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Quote: "So , better to just go with s broker ? Seeing as I do not have any experience using a load board . I would probably make bad mistakes . At least until I learn how to find good loads myself . I would use an accountant. Don't think I need factoring. Well depending on how much funding I get from lender. I do not like being an employee. Hard to find places that run 1099 and just let me drive and don't bother me. Just text me a load and I make sure it gets delivered . Don't need a babysitter calling me up . Plus with 1099 I paid almost no taxes. But that is going away with new president I guess. So he said. I'm soaking in advice here, asking questions. Giving my opinion so I can get feedback on it. "

My phone number is on my profile. Give me a call and I'll try to answer any of your questions.

Replied on Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 12:29 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "I Chi Wa Wa ... It doesn't seem like you want to understand or, you are merely a troll. 100 truck fleets hire sales people to get loads direct, and dispatchers to dispatch the trucks. You cannot compare yourself to a 100 truck fleet, but you know what go for it. Don't listen to us.. Gve it a shot. " I understand. No I'm not a troll. I simply thought up until the other day that s dispatcher was so, ply a guy who was an employee of s truck company and he just got loads from s broker and then told the company drivers what to do. I never had any reason to ask a owner how they got loads . I thought and am probably right on this in some cases, that a company hired or perhaps contracted , with a broker to find their loads for the company . I know one guy I worked for got our loads from s broker not s load board . I also drive a truck for a broker one time . I'm not comparing myself to z big company. I was simply making my point that they use either brokers or dispatchers and the ceo likely does not spend all day on a load board. This I see no problem using s broker [ I learned that I would pay more using dispatcher] to get loads. Seems like the smart thing to do for s while until I figure out how to use the load board in a profitable way . I can drive and pay a broker and get all my loads from him [ I assume I can contract with a good one ] . Meanwhile I can study load board and ask questions . And yes, I am soaking up all the advice you guys are giving out.

Replied on Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 12:29 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "I Chi Wa Wa ... It doesn't seem like you want to understand or, you are merely a troll. 100 truck fleets hire sales people to get loads direct, and dispatchers to dispatch the trucks. You cannot compare yourself to a 100 truck fleet, but you know what go for it. Don't listen to us.. Gve it a shot. "

I understand. No I'm not a troll.

I simply thought up until the other day that s dispatcher was so, ply a guy who was an employee of s truck company and he just got loads from s broker and then told the company drivers what to do.

I never had any reason to ask a owner how they got loads .

I thought and am probably right on this in some cases, that a company hired or perhaps contracted , with a broker to find their loads for the company .

I know one guy I worked for got our loads from s broker not s load board . I also drive a truck for a broker one time .

I'm not comparing myself to z big company. I was simply making my point that they use either brokers or dispatchers and the ceo likely does not spend all day on a load board.

This I see no problem using s broker [ I learned that I would pay more using dispatcher] to get loads. Seems like the smart thing to do for s while until I figure out how to use the load board in a profitable way .

I can drive and pay a broker and get all my loads from him [ I assume I can contract with a good one ] . Meanwhile I can study load board and ask questions .

And yes, I am soaking up all the advice you guys are giving out.

Replied on Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 12:44 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "My phone number is on my profile. Give me a call and I'll try to answer any of your questions. " Thank you ,much. I have s while to go since I need to get authority , well I do have someone to run under for 10% , and I got to get funding for truck, trailer and insurance etc. Then I made s commitment with the guy I work for now to stay til warm weather . Got to keep my word as that is the only thing that can not be taken away from a person. But I will save your number and when I need some good advice that is worth taking up your time for I will call. You are very nice to offer that .

Replied on Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 12:44 PM CST

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Quote: "My phone number is on my profile. Give me a call and I'll try to answer any of your questions. "

Thank you ,much.

I have s while to go since I need to get authority , well I do have someone to run under for 10% , and I got to get funding for truck, trailer and insurance etc.

Then I made s commitment with the guy I work for now to stay til warm weather . Got to keep my word as that is the only thing that can not be taken away from a person.

But I will save your number and when I need some good advice that is worth taking up your time for I will call.

You are very nice to offer that .

Replied on Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 12:45 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "I guess what I find interesting is how any time there is talk of bringing back regulation, the Brokers make it widely known how they Oppose any effort to do so, yet those same people are all in favor of shutting down these dispatch services? Regulation for everyone else, but not themselves? If I choose to EMPLOY a dispatcher in my operation to coordinate loads on my behalf, what’s wrong with that? If a trucker can be 1099, then why not a business agent, acting on my behalf? As I understand it one benefit to this approach is, many dispatch services don’t force you to sign away your rights, like some brokers do. If you allow the brokers to take this option away from you, the brokers will own you. The Trojan horse is right in front of you." Truckers can’t be on 1099 unless he DOESN’T work for a carrier. If the Cartier pays the all the bills then it’s illegal.

Replied on Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 12:45 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "I guess what I find interesting is how any time there is talk of bringing back regulation, the Brokers make it widely known how they Oppose any effort to do so, yet those same people are all in favor of shutting down these dispatch services? Regulation for everyone else, but not themselves? If I choose to EMPLOY a dispatcher in my operation to coordinate loads on my behalf, what’s wrong with that? If a trucker can be 1099, then why not a business agent, acting on my behalf? As I understand it one benefit to this approach is, many dispatch services don’t force you to sign away your rights, like some brokers do. If you allow the brokers to take this option away from you, the brokers will own you. The Trojan horse is right in front of you."

Truckers can’t be on 1099 unless he DOESN’T work for a carrier. If the Cartier pays the all the bills then it’s illegal.

Replied on Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 03:23 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "I been driving for 12 years. Just am really bad with paperwork. Do not have the patients to fill it out nor do I want to. I would only lease on if it was a emergency. Don't want to be an employee. I generally work 1099 and only for people that I can work 5 days only. I will not do that 34 hour reset crap. Got things I have to do besides live in that truck. I charge 1k a week to drive , home everyday or out 5. I would be much more successful if I pay someone to make sure paperwork is done right. Not just the load stuff but compliance also. I got no idea what paperwork goes along with getting a load. Might be easy. But I read that the difference in broker and dispatcher is basically dispatch service can take care of all paperwork etc so I can just drive . Seems like cost is about the same . I don't want to get my own loads. Too ,much thinking quick for me . " Then you’d hafta pay workers comp.

Replied on Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 03:23 PM CST

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Then you’d hafta pay workers comp.

Replied on Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 03:23 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Truckers can’t be on 1099 unless he DOESN’T work for a carrier. If the Cartier pays the all the bills then it’s illegal." Actually that is a myth. As long as they do not tell you what to do , how, when, where ... it is legal . I file on 1099 taxes every year for 4 years straight . Look it up . But anyway I think this whole conversation should stop since we are hijsvking this thread from its original subject

Replied on Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 03:23 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "Truckers can’t be on 1099 unless he DOESN’T work for a carrier. If the Cartier pays the all the bills then it’s illegal."

Actually that is a myth. As long as they do not tell you what to do , how, when, where ... it is legal . I file on 1099 taxes every year for 4 years straight . Look it up .

But anyway I think this whole conversation should stop since we are hijsvking this thread from its original subject

Replied on Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 03:23 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Brokers needed, Access to Zoom info, Accounts to start, Transport investments inc. 205-732-7112, Asset based 1200 assets Heavy Haul, Military, Dispatchers avail to work your accounts. Ins, prof share.......

Replied on Sat, Jan 02, 2021 at 04:48 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Then you’d hafta pay workers comp." Why would that be ?

Replied on Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 08:35 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I would say some dispatching company opraters differently than I do. For example my company will find the load for you and send you the load information. I will constantly communicate with the broker of the location of the load and take care of all the paperwork. I went in business to server the Drivers so they will not get screws over by the broker and maintain all the paper so the driver can focus on driver. I also will help find a repair service if they break down. My main job is to keep your wheels rolling at all cost. And to insure you are paid on time and in a reasonable manner. If you would like more information call contact me at 314 265 0068 or [email protected]

Replied on Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 08:35 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

I would say some dispatching company opraters differently than I do. For example my company will find the load for you and send you the load information. I will constantly communicate with the broker of the location of the load and take care of all the paperwork. I went in business to server the Drivers so they will not get screws over by the broker and maintain all the paper so the driver can focus on driver. I also will help find a repair service if they break down. My main job is to keep your wheels rolling at all cost. And to insure you are paid on time and in a reasonable manner.

If you would like more information call contact me at 314 265 0068 or [email protected]

Replied on Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 01:13 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Why not buy s truck if you only want to drive. By this logic I must assume that every company finds their own loads on boards and hires no one to do it for them. The ceo who owns 100 trucks sits all day on a load board getting 100 drivers loads ? No he hires a broker or dispatchers. I know o/o that prefer the load board. But they are good at it. Repairs. Nope , not a mechanic . Nor are 100's of thousands of other drivers. That is why mechanic shops stay in business. I fail to see the problem with owning a truck and using a didpatch service. Especially if the o/o is new st the business of it. Best to pay out a little money and know you are going to get good loads." Hi Marcus, I would love to have a convo explaining a lot of differences and bs that is passed around. 1. there is no obligation to work with dispatcher. 2. they can absolutely obtian loads straight from shppers. In that case, when he offers it you will receive 90% of the loads $ vs with a broker when he offers it you will receive 50% - 70% and still may pay a dispatcher another 10% if he obtains the load from a broker. All the same load, 3 different payout scenarios. All depends on how it goes down and the relationships the broker or dispatcher has. Hope this helps. Get in contact with me ASAP! P.S they also can handle a lot of your office work. Depends on the individual comapny. DONT LET ANYONE TALK YOU OUT OF GROWING YOUR BUSINESS. WHAT DOESNT WORK FOR THEM IS THEIR PROBLEM, NOT YOURS!

Replied on Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 01:13 PM CST

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Hi Marcus, I would love to have a convo explaining a lot of differences and bs that is passed around. 1. there is no obligation to work with dispatcher. 2. they can absolutely obtian loads straight from shppers. In that case, when he offers it you will receive 90% of the loads $ vs with a broker when he offers it you will receive 50% - 70% and still may pay a dispatcher another 10% if he obtains the load from a broker. All the same load, 3 different payout scenarios. All depends on how it goes down and the relationships the broker or dispatcher has. Hope this helps. Get in contact with me ASAP!

P.S they also can handle a lot of your office work. Depends on the individual comapny. DONT LET ANYONE TALK YOU OUT OF GROWING YOUR BUSINESS. WHAT DOESNT WORK FOR THEM IS THEIR PROBLEM, NOT YOURS!

Replied on Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 01:53 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Since I know nothing about paperwork, load finding .. always been company driver . Do dispatch services deal with all the paperwork etc.. ? I would need someone to do that for me since will just be starting out as o/o. Dont want to fail right out of gate. " Hey, Yes we would find higher paying loads and handle all back office paperwork for carriers. I could help if your internested

Replied on Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 01:53 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Hey, Yes we would find higher paying loads and handle all back office paperwork for carriers. I could help if your internested

Replied on Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 07:33 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "The flaw in your plan is the dispatcher is most likely going to get your loads from a broker. You will pay the brokerage, and the dispatcher. Your compliance will come from a third party. Most dispatchers only handle loading and related paperwork. Then comes factoring if you choose to go that way. Additionally, if you don't know how to do any of it, how will you know if they are doing you a good job? NO ONE will look out for your interests better than you. Here's a quick breakdown of fees: Dispatcher / Broker all rolled into the dispatcher fee Compliance Factoring (if you don't have the capital to wait to be paid) Book Keeping CPA to file your tax return We haven't got to your equipment, fuel, insurance, tags, maintenance, and oh yea, your salary. I gues my next question is, if you've been driving for the last 12 years and it's been working, why change it? I'm not trying to make you mad or talk you out of your plan, it's your business go ahead and give it a shot. All I can say without a doubt, is it's a flawed plan right out of the gate. I hope it works out for you and you prove me wrong. Dave Winters reply above is also well said. If you are looking for advice from people with experience in this industry, here you have it. What you decide to do with it is up to you. Good Luck!" You know I did not quite answer to this beforeso here it is. I dont like being an employee. Not in trucking nor any other job I have had. On top of that almost every company I have worked for since driving has either been a bad fit ( worthless paychecks, no pay for weeks on end cuz of no money, promised 1400 week and got 250 to 350 hauling ddgs all summer, 3 last companies went out of business...) Im tired of it. Too old to continue doing that stuff. but I do have a good accountant that dont charge me much and knows trucking well. As it looks I can not get enough funding to buyu my own truck and trailer. Too much out on down payments to be able to fund the rest. So I am thinking of just leasing a new truck ( less breakdowns and tax incentives plus trade in 2 years ) more payment but I think it is worth it. Nope, not a mechanic nor have a shop. Leasing deals with some of that. So now I am trying to find some of my posts since BL seems to be buggy and wont allow me to search for them. Thinking just lease a tractor and lease on to a company doing end dump or grain. Someone posted a good large end dump company I think in Ne but I lost the thread. Anyway. I have faith. If I have a truck , I can make money. Plenty of loads. Just got to go get em. Got to learn sometime.

Replied on Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 07:33 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

You know I did not quite answer to this beforeso here it is.

I dont like being an employee. Not in trucking nor any other job I have had. On top of that almost every company I have worked for since driving has either been a bad fit ( worthless paychecks, no pay for weeks on end cuz of no money, promised 1400 week and got 250 to 350 hauling ddgs all summer, 3 last companies went out of business...) Im tired of it. Too old to continue doing that stuff.

but I do have a good accountant that dont charge me much and knows trucking well. As it looks I can not get enough funding to buyu my own truck and trailer. Too much out on down payments to be able to fund the rest. So I am thinking of just leasing a new truck ( less breakdowns and tax incentives plus trade in 2 years ) more payment but I think it is worth it.

Nope, not a mechanic nor have a shop. Leasing deals with some of that.

So now I am trying to find some of my posts since BL seems to be buggy and wont allow me to search for them. Thinking just lease a tractor and lease on to a company doing end dump or grain. Someone posted a good large end dump company I think in Ne but I lost the thread.

Anyway. I have faith. If I have a truck , I can make money. Plenty of loads. Just got to go get em. Got to learn sometime.