Check your scale tickets
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Sep 07, 2024 at 03:38 PM CST
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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.
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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.
Am I the only one finding a weight discrepancy from The Andersons ethanol plant in Albion, MI? Not corn, but DDG. For those that have never been there, they somehow weigh the DDG as it's being loaded without the truck ever touching a scale. The only other place I've loaded that does it this way is the E-plant in South Bend. When I get to destinations in Joliet, IL that actually scale the truck, the net delivered weight on my ticket has been off as much as 600 pounds vs the origin. Just this week alone I hauled 2 loads with a total difference of over 1,100 pounds more than the origin weight ticket. This becomes a problem when some brokers only pay origin weight. I have contacted The Andersons directly to address the issue, the response I got was to use their scale at the plant and compare it to the dispensed weight ticket from the DDG loader, if there is a weight difference then let someone know.
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Replied on Mon, Sep 09, 2024 at 08:54 AM CST
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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.
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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.
I've gotten total weights before as well at The Andersons. It's a bit of a hassle, but you can weigh in and out if you inform the girls in the scale house what you're trying to do. I can tell you from experience that you're going to be there all day, sometimes back and forth, trying to get your weight right, sometimes... Hope this was helpful.
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Replied on Mon, Sep 09, 2024 at 12:34 PM CST
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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.
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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.
Probably should have an agreement with the broker, that loads coming from places without real scales should be billed off of delivery weight as long as the delivery location has scales. When I hauled cattle the billing was always based off delivery weight due to shrink.
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Replied on Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 12:11 PM CST
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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.
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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.
It's called invisible loss, just put in your contract that you, the carier, are not responsible for invisible loss. Scales can be 200 lbs off easily from location to location. Your fuel weight differs. Your talking about a small amount of weight. You havnt been in the business line if your squabbling over 400-600 lbs. It's required by law that loads are paid based on certified scales.
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Replied on Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 02:48 PM CST
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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.
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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.
Quote: "It's called invisible loss, just put in your contract that you, the carier, are not responsible for invisible loss. Scales can be 200 lbs off easily from location to location. Your fuel weight differs. Your talking about a small amount of weight. You havnt been in the business line if your squabbling over 400-600 lbs. It's required by law that loads are paid based on certified scales."
Brad, since you don't mind hauling tons for free I bet you stay pretty busy. Some shippers and brokers will withhold pay for differences in NET weight of 300 or more pounds, and some may even consider it theft. Just check some of your carrier packets. A difference of 60 to 100 pounds is quite common, but 600 pounds isn't...... And FYI fuel will never change the NET weight,... but you knew that because you've been doing this a really long time, right...
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Replied on Sat, Nov 09, 2024 at 08:12 PM CST
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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.
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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.
Quote: "Brad, since you don't mind hauling tons for free I bet you stay pretty busy. Some shippers and brokers will withhold pay for differences in NET weight of 300 or more pounds, and some may even consider it theft. Just check some of your carrier packets. A difference of 60 to 100 pounds is quite common, but 600 pounds isn't...... And FYI fuel will never change the NET weight,... but you knew that because you've been doing this a really long time, right..."
You should seriously just stop using the forum. I dont see you making any friends or representing your business well. If your gonna argue a customer over $20 on a scale ticket. Then it's on you for not understanding your agreement. Why so worked up? 600 lbs isn't even a 1/4 ton and fuel will change gross which will effect net. It's like you came here to argue... this isn't a YT video comment section. Calm down super trucker
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Replied on Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 02:57 PM CST
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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.
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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.
Quote: "You should seriously just stop using the forum. I dont see you making any friends or representing your business well. If your gonna argue a customer over $20 on a scale ticket. Then it's on you for not understanding your agreement. Why so worked up? 600 lbs isn't even a 1/4 ton and fuel will change gross which will effect net. It's like you came here to argue... this isn't a YT video comment section. Calm down super trucker"
Oh my...fuel changes net?? Pot meet kettle lol. |
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Replied on Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 07:50 AM CST
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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.
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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.
Quote: "Oh my...fuel changes net?? Pot meet kettle lol."
Any weight change between scales, changes gross total wt. which then changes obviously change the net (what actually paid on) was point to OP.
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Replied on Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 07:51 AM CST
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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.
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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.
Quote: "You should seriously just stop using the forum. I dont see you making any friends or representing your business well. If your gonna argue a customer over $20 on a scale ticket. Then it's on you for not understanding your agreement. Why so worked up? 600 lbs isn't even a 1/4 ton and fuel will change gross which will effect net. It's like you came here to argue... this isn't a YT video comment section. Calm down super trucker"
I personally believe in sweating the small stuff in business as well as the big things... Let's say you owned a small fleet of 5 trucks with 5 drivers. Your drivers haul a total of 25 loads a week, but you get shorted $20 per load because equipment at the shipper isn't calibrated correctly. That's $500 a week. Then, because you like making friends you never address the issue and a year goes by. If all you're drivers ran 50 weeks out of the year minus 2 weeks for vacations, that missed $20 just cost your business $25,000.... And... when it comes to fuel effecting your net weight... I won't bother. Lastly, I'm a small one truck outfit. I have addressed the issue with this particular shipper on more than one occasion. I just figured I would share this info with others that might also sweat the small stuff.
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