Cheap Freight

Jan 06, 2021 at 01:31 PM CST + 36 - 4
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Whats with all the cheap ass freight on here!! Loads with no available back hauls 100 mile radius around to back towards home base should be $4.00 a loaded mile, too many people that will work for nothing these days, my trucks can sit in driveway before I haul cheap freight, looking for dedicated good work outta Wisconsin and back, its 2021 nothing went down this year in the industry so why should truck rates be so loww

Replied on Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 12:55 PM CST + 3
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. The seceret my friend is the word NO to freight that does not suit your cup o tea .

Replied on Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 01:00 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "The seceret my friend is the word NO to freight that does not suit your cup o tea ." I've been saying the word no alot lately lol Especially when they ask me to haul blood,pork,meat and bone meal yuck 🤮 for not enough

Replied on Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 10:29 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. There are new brokers on here seems every week. They don't have a clue what bulk freight is about or what rates should be. You can warn people about who you work for but they don't think that far ahead. Art Pfluger

Replied on Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 10:29 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Have you all tried a dispatching service before? I will find the time to look for loads thats you want and negotiate the price you are looking for. I have years of experience dealing with angry truck drivers and I really understand your needs. Because when you settle for less your income shows it. If you have time view our website and maybe we can keep your wheels turning. Bmallet.com [email protected]

Replied on Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 10:29 AM CST

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Have you all tried a dispatching service before? I will find the time to look for loads thats you want and negotiate the price you are looking for. I have years of experience dealing with angry truck drivers and I really understand your needs. Because when you settle for less your income shows it. If you have time view our website and maybe we can keep your wheels turning. Bmallet.com [email protected]

Replied on Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 10:29 AM CST + 2
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "I've been saying the word no alot lately lol Especially when they ask me to haul blood,pork,meat and bone meal yuck 🤮 for not enough" If everyone would say no to cheap rates, the rate would go up. Its the ones that refuse to say no. I say no all the time, and the rate goes up almost instantly.

Replied on Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 10:30 AM CST + 2 - 2
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I havent even made the steps this year to keep my trucking business moving forward. I am scared of the full Liberal administration regulating it completely to death worst than it already is..Its pretty sickening and dishearting to be honest about it.. Here I have a good truck and trailer, a good driver with a good wife for support, but I am plumb discouraged...One thing I can do to turn money is I buy and pull gooseneck trailers along with say old tractor's that I buy to flip, but anybody with any concerns about the future are getting super conservative fiscally (and rightfully so) , so flipping will become a hard game also...Good luck out there Men, I think 2021 is gonna be a bumpy ride..

Replied on Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 10:30 AM CST

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I havent even made the steps this year to keep my trucking business moving forward. I am scared of the full Liberal administration regulating it completely to death worst than it already is..Its pretty sickening and dishearting to be honest about it.. Here I have a good truck and trailer, a good driver with a good wife for support, but I am plumb discouraged...One thing I can do to turn money is I buy and pull gooseneck trailers along with say old tractor's that I buy to flip, but anybody with any concerns about the future are getting super conservative fiscally (and rightfully so) , so flipping will become a hard game also...Good luck out there Men, I think 2021 is gonna be a bumpy ride..

Replied on Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 03:50 PM CST + 2 - 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. If you've got a good truck, a good driver, and a supportive wife do business as usual until you find you can't. Don't make problems for yourself with self-fulfilling predictions. I remember everyone thinking the world had come to an end when Obama began his reign. We managed to survive.

Replied on Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 06:35 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "If everyone would say no to cheap rates, the rate would go up. Its the ones that refuse to say no. I say no all the time, and the rate goes up almost instantly." Oh yeah im pretty used to saying no rates need to come up

Replied on Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 06:35 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. just say NO and it seems they somehow find somene to say yes. talked with a person the other day about a round that was offered to us and we said no asked him how it was working for him and he said good paying 2.66 per mile after quizing him harder he admitted that was per loaded mile actual dollars per mile on round closer to 1.35 park your truck you are going backwards at less than 1.80 on a 52000# tandem load per totol mile that includes bounce miles!!!!!

Replied on Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 06:35 AM CST

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just say NO and it seems they somehow find somene to say yes. talked with a person the other day about a round that was offered to us and we said no asked him how it was working for him and he said good paying 2.66 per mile after quizing him harder he admitted that was per loaded mile actual dollars per mile on round closer to 1.35 park your truck you are going backwards at less than 1.80 on a 52000# tandem load per totol mile that includes bounce miles!!!!!

Replied on Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 06:35 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. spell check TOTAL

Replied on Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 07:54 AM CST + 1 - 2
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "I havent even made the steps this year to keep my trucking business moving forward. I am scared of the full Liberal administration regulating it completely to death worst than it already is..Its pretty sickening and dishearting to be honest about it.. Here I have a good truck and trailer, a good driver with a good wife for support, but I am plumb discouraged...One thing I can do to turn money is I buy and pull gooseneck trailers along with say old tractor's that I buy to flip, but anybody with any concerns about the future are getting super conservative fiscally (and rightfully so) , so flipping will become a hard game also...Good luck out there Men, I think 2021 is gonna be a bumpy ride.." Hell ya 2021 IS gonna be a bumpy ride, just grit your teeth and ride this democratic controlled government into the ground

Replied on Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 07:54 AM CST

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Quote: "I havent even made the steps this year to keep my trucking business moving forward. I am scared of the full Liberal administration regulating it completely to death worst than it already is..Its pretty sickening and dishearting to be honest about it.. Here I have a good truck and trailer, a good driver with a good wife for support, but I am plumb discouraged...One thing I can do to turn money is I buy and pull gooseneck trailers along with say old tractor's that I buy to flip, but anybody with any concerns about the future are getting super conservative fiscally (and rightfully so) , so flipping will become a hard game also...Good luck out there Men, I think 2021 is gonna be a bumpy ride.."

Hell ya 2021 IS gonna be a bumpy ride, just grit your teeth and ride this democratic controlled government into the ground

Replied on Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 07:04 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "just say NO and it seems they somehow find somene to say yes. talked with a person the other day about a round that was offered to us and we said no asked him how it was working for him and he said good paying 2.66 per mile after quizing him harder he admitted that was per loaded mile actual dollars per mile on round closer to 1.35 park your truck you are going backwards at less than 1.80 on a 52000# tandem load per totol mile that includes bounce miles!!!!!" Only way I take them 2.66 a loaded mile runs is if its not far away from a drop off and I reload and go to the next place and keep finding loads close by to reload and I get home

Replied on Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 07:04 AM CST

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Quote: "just say NO and it seems they somehow find somene to say yes. talked with a person the other day about a round that was offered to us and we said no asked him how it was working for him and he said good paying 2.66 per mile after quizing him harder he admitted that was per loaded mile actual dollars per mile on round closer to 1.35 park your truck you are going backwards at less than 1.80 on a 52000# tandem load per totol mile that includes bounce miles!!!!!"

Only way I take them 2.66 a loaded mile runs is if its not far away from a drop off and I reload and go to the next place and keep finding loads close by to reload and I get home

Replied on Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 01:42 PM CST + 1 - 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Yes everyone thought the world was going to end under oboma. Here we are yet. Here is my take on things. We made money trucking those years or I did anyway. Also the farmers actually had some good years as well including dairy. Now everybody's broke in farming and that in turn generates less truck loads of stuff to move. We have got to get all industry back on its feet for a full recovery for everyone. With a booming ag sector which we didn't see for 5+ years trucking rates should improve. I like to look past the low rate and what is the big picture behind it. Yes some brokers are greedy but the big picture is what drives everything.

Replied on Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 01:42 PM CST

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Yes everyone thought the world was going to end under oboma. Here we are yet. Here is my take on things. We made money trucking those years or I did anyway. Also the farmers actually had some good years as well including dairy. Now everybody's broke in farming and that in turn generates less truck loads of stuff to move. We have got to get all industry back on its feet for a full recovery for everyone. With a booming ag sector which we didn't see for 5+ years trucking rates should improve. I like to look past the low rate and what is the big picture behind it. Yes some brokers are greedy but the big picture is what drives everything.

Replied on Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 04:09 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Well right now there are a lot of unhappy people out there on both sides of the isle, but the one common thread that binds them together is the ability to put food on the table for their families, so Biden’s pro labor agenda might not be so bad, there is a lot of talk about bringing hourly pay into the trucking industry, and eliminating the fair labor standards exemption for many industries. If they don’t address the economic problems all the other ones will only get worse.

Replied on Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 04:09 PM CST

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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Well right now there are a lot of unhappy people out there on both sides of the isle, but the one common thread that binds them together is the ability to put food on the table for their families, so Biden’s pro labor agenda might not be so bad, there is a lot of talk about bringing hourly pay into the trucking industry, and eliminating the fair labor standards exemption for many industries. If they don’t address the economic problems all the other ones will only get worse.

Replied on Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 04:10 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Yes everyone thought the world was going to end under oboma. Here we are yet. Here is my take on things. We made money trucking those years or I did anyway. Also the farmers actually had some good years as well including dairy. Now everybody's broke in farming and that in turn generates less truck loads of stuff to move. We have got to get all industry back on its feet for a full recovery for everyone. With a booming ag sector which we didn't see for 5+ years trucking rates should improve. I like to look past the low rate and what is the big picture behind it. Yes some brokers are greedy but the big picture is what drives everything." In my opinion the reason rates with hoppers were so good under the Obama administration had to do with the $4 plus a gallon fuel. When the oil fields in north dakota were running wide open the rail road was hauling oil not agricultural products. Many ethanol plants were running as slow as possible because the rail couldn't get the ethanol hauled out. You take the trains out of the ag hauling game you will name your rate and make money. I know I did. I don't blame trump for trying to get better trade deals. Other countries have been taking advantage of america for years and it's time to equal the playing field. I had plenty of work and made money until this covid came along.

Replied on Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 04:10 PM CST

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Quote: "Yes everyone thought the world was going to end under oboma. Here we are yet. Here is my take on things. We made money trucking those years or I did anyway. Also the farmers actually had some good years as well including dairy. Now everybody's broke in farming and that in turn generates less truck loads of stuff to move. We have got to get all industry back on its feet for a full recovery for everyone. With a booming ag sector which we didn't see for 5+ years trucking rates should improve. I like to look past the low rate and what is the big picture behind it. Yes some brokers are greedy but the big picture is what drives everything."

In my opinion the reason rates with hoppers were so good under the Obama administration had to do with the $4 plus a gallon fuel. When the oil fields in north dakota were running wide open the rail road was hauling oil not agricultural products. Many ethanol plants were running as slow as possible because the rail couldn't get the ethanol hauled out. You take the trains out of the ag hauling game you will name your rate and make money. I know I did. I don't blame trump for trying to get better trade deals. Other countries have been taking advantage of america for years and it's time to equal the playing field. I had plenty of work and made money until this covid came along.

Replied on Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 12:30 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. The cost to move a shipping container acoss the pacific has risen from $2000.00 to $13,000.00 in the past year, yet everyone on here says they are seeing lower freight rates for trucks? How many of you think they are taking some of that money from the truckers? Surging Shipping Rates Pose New Headwind for the Global Economy - Bloomberg

Replied on Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 12:01 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "If everyone would say no to cheap rates, the rate would go up. Its the ones that refuse to say no. I say no all the time, and the rate goes up almost instantly." It’s not pleasant to think about, but the truckers are the problem, the shippers have the money just look at how the cost of shipping container’s has risen over 300% in the past year, yet trucker’s can’t even get a modest increase to cover detention time, or recover the revenue loss from the ELD? There are too many idiots among us, that won’t stop adding trucks no matter how low the rates go, well now that accident’s are embarrassing the government it’s not surprising that the government is focusing on consolidation and using insurance and regulation to do it, maybe if they make trucking suck enough folks will stop doing it for free.

Replied on Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 12:01 PM CST

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Quote: "If everyone would say no to cheap rates, the rate would go up. Its the ones that refuse to say no. I say no all the time, and the rate goes up almost instantly."

It’s not pleasant to think about, but the truckers are the problem, the shippers have the money just look at how the cost of shipping container’s has risen over 300% in the past year, yet trucker’s can’t even get a modest increase to cover detention time, or recover the revenue loss from the ELD? There are too many idiots among us, that won’t stop adding trucks no matter how low the rates go, well now that accident’s are embarrassing the government it’s not surprising that the government is focusing on consolidation and using insurance and regulation to do it, maybe if they make trucking suck enough folks will stop doing it for free.

Replied on Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 01:25 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. The trucking industry unlike the sea going transport companies is way too fractured to have the power to move rates in the upward position. When a small operater is offered crumbs and he or she has no other options he/she will take the crumbs and continue on down the road . I guess they feel if they are moving they are doing the right thing. The truth is if you move at the wrong rate you just cut off your nose to spite your face.

Replied on Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 01:25 PM CST

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The trucking industry unlike the sea going transport companies is way too fractured to have the power to move rates in the upward position. When a small operater is offered crumbs and he or she has no other options he/she will take the crumbs and continue on down the road . I guess they feel if they are moving they are doing the right thing. The truth is if you move at the wrong rate you just cut off your nose to spite your face.

Replied on Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 07:37 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. For years we were fed lies about how the shippers just couldn’t afford to pay more for freight even the ATA told us that a small percentage in rate increase’s would plunge the economy into ruins, cause a recession, crash the stock market etc, well container freight went up 300% and rates are being locked in at that for the next year, yet I can still get screaming deals at harbor freight, northern tool and the stock market is still above 30,000 and CEO’s are still making 480 times what they made prior to 1980. Yes the trucking industry is fractured, and doesn’t seem to be able to fix itself, so I find myself asking what have we got to loose by embracing a new approach?

Replied on Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 07:37 AM CST

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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

For years we were fed lies about how the shippers just couldn’t afford to pay more for freight even the ATA told us that a small percentage in rate increase’s would plunge the economy into ruins, cause a recession, crash the stock market etc, well container freight went up 300% and rates are being locked in at that for the next year, yet I can still get screaming deals at harbor freight, northern tool and the stock market is still above 30,000 and CEO’s are still making 480 times what they made prior to 1980. Yes the trucking industry is fractured, and doesn’t seem to be able to fix itself, so I find myself asking what have we got to loose by embracing a new approach?

Replied on Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 07:38 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Only way I take them 2.66 a loaded mile runs is if its not far away from a drop off and I reload and go to the next place and keep finding loads close by to reload and I get home" That's how they get those loads moved for one way money!

Replied on Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 07:33 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "It’s not pleasant to think about, but the truckers are the problem, the shippers have the money just look at how the cost of shipping container’s has risen over 300% in the past year, yet trucker’s can’t even get a modest increase to cover detention time, or recover the revenue loss from the ELD? There are too many idiots among us, that won’t stop adding trucks no matter how low the rates go, well now that accident’s are embarrassing the government it’s not surprising that the government is focusing on consolidation and using insurance and regulation to do it, maybe if they make trucking suck enough folks will stop doing it for free. " The US Ag Market offers $3-$1000 freight back to China there is a shortage of containers because the ships will run them back empty refusing the LOW "backhaul" rates

Replied on Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 07:33 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "It’s not pleasant to think about, but the truckers are the problem, the shippers have the money just look at how the cost of shipping container’s has risen over 300% in the past year, yet trucker’s can’t even get a modest increase to cover detention time, or recover the revenue loss from the ELD? There are too many idiots among us, that won’t stop adding trucks no matter how low the rates go, well now that accident’s are embarrassing the government it’s not surprising that the government is focusing on consolidation and using insurance and regulation to do it, maybe if they make trucking suck enough folks will stop doing it for free. "

The US Ag Market offers $3-$1000 freight back to China

there is a shortage of containers because the ships will run them back empty refusing the LOW "backhaul" rates

Replied on Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 09:34 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. NO is a very simple word...I have dead headed back from TX and OK instead of hauling a load for $1.40 a mile. It's not what I like to do and it hurts, but it will pay off when they know that load will sit on the dock for a few more days. I'm not making brokers and shippers money while I go broke. I didn't buy a truck and trailer to go bankrupt while making someone like Gavilon rich..er. Real truck drivers don't bankrupt thier friends by hauling cheap freight. To steal a phrase that's over used these days..."We're all in this together", lets act like it.

Replied on Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 09:34 PM CST

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NO is a very simple word...I have dead headed back from TX and OK instead of hauling a load for $1.40 a mile. It's not what I like to do and it hurts, but it will pay off when they know that load will sit on the dock for a few more days. I'm not making brokers and shippers money while I go broke. I didn't buy a truck and trailer to go bankrupt while making someone like Gavilon rich..er.

Real truck drivers don't bankrupt thier friends by hauling cheap freight. To steal a phrase that's over used these days..."We're all in this together", lets act like it.

Replied on Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 09:34 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "The US Ag Market offers $3-$1000 freight back to China there is a shortage of containers because the ships will run them back empty refusing the LOW "backhaul" rates" I have never hauled a load backwards...It's ALL forward freight...don't matter which direction I travel, my truck doesn't run any cheaper going north, south, east or west...